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Tuesday, August 28, 2007

In Memoriam: Susanna Oroyan Obituary

I wanted to bump this up to the top again since I blog a lot and things tend to pile up.September 04, 2007 Susanna Oroyan's Obituary from the Eugene Register Guard

Susanna Oroyan

1942 – 2007

Internationally known local author and artist dies: August 22, 2007.

Susanna Oroyan was born May 24, 1942 in Portland, Oregon, daughter of Louis Benjamin Scruggs and Marjorie Eunice Hibbert Scruggs. She attended Brooklyn Elementary School there and Keizer Elementary School in Salem, Oregon. She graduated from North Salem High School in 1960 and went on to attend both the University of Oregon and California State University at Sacramento. She received a Bachelor of Arts degree and completed a 5th year of education in California and Master of Arts in English from the University of Oregon in 1971. She was accepted to the PhD. program in 1978 at the University of Oregon and worked on rhetorical theory under the direction of Albert Kitzhaber until his retirement in 1981. She married Thomas Oroyan of Waimanalo, Oahu, Hawaii in 1962. Her death was due to a seven year battle with colo-rectal cancer in her spine.

"I never had a real job unless you count being the world's longest term temporary part-time secretary when I worked nine years for my husband's architectural firm. After school I fell head over heels into making figure sculpture. This is the construction of evocative or provocative representations of the human figure. They are multi-media constructs showing the human condition from realistic to abstract often seen in museums and galleries. One of my first pieces, a soft sculpture character, won first place in the sculpture division of the All Oregon Art Show in 1975. By 1980, I had begun to sculpt with oven curing clays and I was honored to be elected an artist member of the National Institute of American Doll\u2009/ Artists in 1982."

As a member of NIADA, Oroyan served on the Board and as President of the organization from 1985 to 1992 and remained an active committee member until 2004.

"Throughout my doll making years, I wrote to promote the art and the artists'." Over the years, Oroyan produced over 300 articles for various journals and was contracted to consult for Hobby House Press from 1987 until its sale in 1994. After leaving office work in 1988, with her husband's illustrations, founded a line of teaching patterns and booklets under the name of Fabricat Design.

One thing led to another and she was soon "on the road" teaching sculpture to various art and doll groups in places as far away as Australia, and she taught on the regular rotation of the Annual American Quilt Festival in Houston during the 1990s. In 1992, one of her Fabricat Publications brought her to the attention of C & T Publishing. With them, again with her husband's illustrations, she wrote and published a series of seminal books on the techniques and design of figure sculpture; Fantastic Figures 1994, Anatomy of the Doll 1997, Designing the Doll 1999, Finishing the Figure 2001, and Art Deco Dolls in 2004. Anatomy of the Doll was honored by Scientific American magazine as Best Technical Book for Youth in 1997. Oroyan also received the award for Best Doll Maker of the year for teaching and publication from the National Association of Cloth Doll Makers in 1995.

Oroyan's art – close to 500 pieces in collections around the world, including the Musee des Jouets at the Louvre in Paris – was noted for whimsy and the avant-garde in figures. She is probably most known for her 60 piece one-of-a kind Mulliner Family series and, in later years, for the Empresses of the Universe series. "It was always the challenge of getting the idea engineered into a three dimensional reality. How does an Empress of the Universe get around? With built-in sails, some on abstract wind-sail contraptions, and one with a pogo stick." The Mulliner English eccentric figures were fun for all. I made an elaborate family tree and basic story for each one. Owners became members of the Mulliner Family Conservancy. Throughout history, it seems Mulliners were very acquisitive, so their owner\u2009/\u2009conservators often collect items and make settings to show off their possessions."

Locally, Oroyan worked with Kathy Jensen, curator of the Springfield Museum to mount highly attended exhibits of figurative art from as many as 150 internationally known artists in 1991 and 1994. In 2001, over 80 pieces of her own work were featured there as the main gallery retrospective. She also was a founder of the annual Doll and Toy Festival held at the fairgrounds every fall and co-chaired it for ten years of its 20 year history. She was also a charter member of the Eugene Doll Club in 1971 and Pacific NW Paper Doll Collectors and helped found the Doll and Toy Craftsmen and the Stitchin' Time cloth doll clubs in the area. As an active member, she chaired the United Federation of Doll Clubs' 1985 Regional Conference noted for taking its 500 attendees to a performance of the Eugene Ballet. During the same year she completed her first book, Contemporary Artist Dolls published in 1986, co-authored with Carol-Lynn Rossel Waugh, and edited the conference limited edition journal, "44 Famous Paper Doll Artists." Again, for the 1994 Conference, she wrote and produced a book on Art Deco dolls and their stories as its limited edition journal.

During the years of her illness and treatment, she continued to be active completing the book "Finishing the Figure" and "Dolls of the Art Deco Era" as well as occasional contributions of articles to various doll making journals. In 2003, she was named consulting editor for Art Doll Quarterly, a publication of Stampington Press. "I am never going to say "retired," but, even though I never thought of myself as a collector, I find I have numbers of older dolls. They always need new clothes or at the very least new display formats, so I always have several working messes which seem to evolve into topics for more articles."

"It has been a wonderful, fascinating and busy life, but I could never have done it without the support of my family and friends. My mother, who did not expect to have to re-mother me at an age when she should have been smelling the roses and especially, my husband, Tom have worked over and beyond. In addition to being my teacher, critic, and translator of ideas into illustrations. In recent years, he has taken on domestic chores and nursing – often getting up three times in a work night to help me be comfortable – putting his own physical condition at risk of deterioration. There are simply no words that can express my love for him. Some people are lucky in love and I was especially blessed."

A memorial service will be held on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 at the Episcopal Church of the Resurrection, Eugene, Oregon at 1:30 p.m. followed by a reception. On September 14, 2007, following a noon memorial service at The Hawaii Memorial Park Mortuary Chapel, Kaneohe, Hawaii, inurnment will be done at the Hawaii Memorial Park Cemetery. Reception will be held at the Mortuary facility.

Susanna is survived by her husband Thomas Oroyan, her mother Eunice Scruggs of Eugene, brother David Scruggs of Portland, son Martin and grandchildren Ruby and Tycho Benjamin Oroyan of London, England; cousins in the Eugene- Springfield area, Portland and Seattle, and by marriage to the Oroyan/Sacayan families, "Auntie Susie" to 35 nieces and nephews, their children, and grandchildren in Hawaii.


August 24, 2007 Update:

Susanna Oroyan's memorial service will be:

Wednesday, September 5th at 1:30
Episcopal Church of the Resurrection
3925 Hilyard
Eugene, OR

to be followed by a reception at the same address at 2:30

A second memorial service and Internment will be in Hawaii.

Eugene Doll Club has organized a memorial fund to first pay
for a memorial page in Doll News and secondly the surplus would go
to Tom Oroyan to help defer expenses.

Please send any donations in care of
Judy Parmenter
Eugene Doll Club
96494 Hwy 99 W
Junction
City, OR 97448

Today Susanna Oroyan passed away. She is the reason I began making dolls. I picked up her book, Fantastic Figures, in the Summer of 2000. I was introduced to a whole new world of creative expression. I would not have that voice without Susanna Oroyan. She is and always will be the dollmaker's muse. May she rest in peace and may light perpetual shine upon her.

Monday, August 27, 2007

Brap WIP



















Here is my latest paperclay endeavor. He will eventually turn into a sweet troll named Brap. He was very relieved when I took the cling wrap off his head and took a big breath of fresh air. I tell him it's for his own good, but he doesn't believe me that he'll dry out before I can finish him. He has one eye near completion and the other one waiting patiently for it's beauty treatment. Brap's inspiration came about when I was looking at Brian Froud's Faeries at Half Priced Books and came across Jimmy Squarefoot, perhaps one of my most favorite Froud creations. I love the gentle, yet somewhat intimidating presence of Jimmy. For those of you who do not have the book (myself included), Jimmy is a cross between a pig and an ogre. Pig's just happen to be one of my most favorite animals, my absolute favorite are barn owls.

Stay tuned for more pictures of Brap.

Also, Blue Fairy will go up for auction on Ebay starting Tuesday August 28.

August 28

I have posted three new pictures of Brap. In these you can see I have added more wrinkles and made his lower lip protrude more. Using translucent Fimo, I made a protruding lower canine tooth.

Now you see all those little cracks? That is nothing to worry over. I use this Japanese liquid paperclay and they disappear like magic. It's great stuff. The next part I am going to work on is his ears and feet. Stay tuned for more updates on this post.

August 29

Brap's armature is 1/4" bonsai training wire. I covered it with paper tape to give the clay something to hold on to. I used aluminum foil to bulk out his chest and save my clay. Brap's legs are covered with Aves Apoxie. This stabilizes the legs in the position I want them to be. His feet have armatures for the toes.

The next step is to begin adding a layer of paperclay around the legs, chest and neck. I will attach his head to the body and seal the connection with the clay. I sculpt a simple form and then let it dry. Then I add the details. This is important because the clay now has a foundation and is much easier to work with. I work with paperclay in stages and allow each stage to dry before I continue. If I am particularly impatient for the clay to dry, I will put it in the oven for up to two hours at 17o degrees Fahrenheit.

Sept 14

I sculpted Brap's hands and used Ave's Sculpt to strengthen the armature. It creates the form of the upper arm and prevents the arm from bending at weird angles. Also, I added Brap's ears. I have written a tutorial about creating strong armatures for the ears. I need to figure out how to post it here.

The next step for Brap is to fill out his body with quilt batting strips and then cover it with cloth. Stay tuned for more updates.

Saturday, August 25, 2007

Group Discussion: Fairies


Recently, I came across a reader kindly criticizing Doll Crafter & Costuming writing too many articles about Fairy dollmaking. It struck me as being true. Fairies are popular with artists and collectors.

There are a lot of dollmakers creating fairies, myself included. My own evolution has swung the gamut from primitive dolls to fairies. My reason is simply this: people pay more for fairies than they do for prim dolls. I feel I put just as much work into either kind too. But I have bills just like everyone else. So I need to follow the buying market. Also, it is more economical for me to use the same amount of supplies towards a doll that will sell at a higher price.

Let's compare fairy dolls and primitive dolls on Ebay. Today, I counted how many auctions started today, Saturday, in the Fairies, Elves, Dwarves category on Ebay. Are you ready? 105 auctions were listed today. That's a lot of fairies, elves and dwarves. But let's be honest, most of the auctions were for fairies. I think I saw one ogre and few dragons. I also noticed sellers taking advantage of the category by selling items to go with those fairy dolls, like wings, chairs and other prop pieces. Now let's take a look at the Primitive dolls on Ebay. 168 auctions started today. That's a lot of prim dolls (I noticed that there were multiple dolls listed by an artist and a lot of patterns). The difference between the two categories, as far as prices go, is that on average fairy doll auctions prices start off around $49.99 to $149.99 while the prim dolls tend to start out at $9.99 to $19.99. What does this mean to you as a fairy or prim dollmaker? To me, it says quite a few things. Among them would be that fairy dolls are more appreciated than prim dolls by collectors and fairy artists use clay while prim artists use cloth (cloth versus clay will be for another discussion at a later time). Why is this so? What do you think?

Why are collectors so enamored with those ephemeral little creatures? As a dollmaker, what is your opinion? Do you have a favorite type of doll to create? Is it fairies? Are you making fairies to pay the bills? If you do love fairies, share with us what it is that fascinates you. If you despise the little winged brats, tell us why.

Friday, August 24, 2007

Blue Fairy *Updated with auction link*

Tonight the auction for this dolls starts at 7:30 pm Pacific. Here is the link, but it won't work until 7:30 pm Pacific tonight, August 28. Ebay link or 120155890923


Here is a sneak peek of my Ebay auction for Tuesday August 28, 2007. She is a hand made, one-of-a-kind, paperclay fairy doll. She stands on her own at 17.5 inches. Her dress is hand dyed by me. The bodice features aves apoxie sculpted adornments. Her slippers are made out of black and silver brocade satin. Her hair is a black Tibetan lambskin wig with blue micro-glitter added for highlights. This doll is more of a "pretty" fairy and was made during a respite from my latest Big Nose Fae (scroll down to learn more about it). If you would like to be notified via email when I list a new doll for sale, go to the right hand side of my blog and join my Yahoo group. You do not need to have a Yahoo account. Thanks and I hope you will bid on my latest endeavor.

Wednesday, August 22, 2007

In Memoriam: New Update


August 24, 2007 Update:

Susanna Oroyan's memorial service will be:

Wednesday, September 5th at 1:30
Episcopal Church of the Resurrection
3925 Hilyard
Eugene, OR

to be followed by a reception at the same address at 2:30

A second memorial service and Internment will be in Hawaii.

Eugene Doll Club has organized a memorial fund to first pay
for a memorial page in Doll News and secondly the surplus would go
to Tom Oroyan to help defer expenses.

Please send any donations in care of
Judy Parmenter
Eugene Doll Club
96494 Hwy 99 W
Junction
City, OR 97448

Today Susanna Oroyan passed away. She is the reason I began making dolls. I picked up her book, Fantastic Figures, in the Summer of 2000. I was introduced to a whole new world of creative expression. I would not have that voice without Susanna Oroyan. She is and always will be the dollmaker's muse. May she rest in peace and may light perpetual shine upon her.

Sunday, August 19, 2007

Thursday, August 16, 2007

Almost there.

Here is an update on my Big Nose Fae. She is now holding a baby. I completely re-did her feet, meaning I chopped off the original ones and replaced them with paperclay feet. I used the same treatment on her legs like I did with her arms. Her shoes are made from the same brocade satin as her bodice with little wooden beads for trim. The sleeves were also fixed. I sewed the ends closed and trimmed them with the same gold gimp. I still need to iron her skirt. Above she does not have any wings. Below are the same wings I made for her originally, but I am leaning towards not having any wings. However, Sherry Goshon made some great suggestions for integrating the wings. But then again, I may not use the wings at all. She'll wind up being an elf.
I hand dyed the silk to match the flower on my Big Nose Fae's hat. Originally, I was going to use the silk on the skirt, but it just didn't look right to me. So I used it to costume the little baby. I used historical photos of swaddled babies as a starting point for my baby fae. I echoed the adult fae's hat on the baby and used the same wooden beads on the baby as I did on the big fae's shoes.
Now I need to make some sort of chair for my fae and her baby. But I think in the meantime I am going to work on another fae. This doll has been quite a challenge for me. One I am learning an awful lot from.

Stay tuned for more updates of this doll. I appreciate any comments you would like to leave.
Happy Dollmaking,
Melisa

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Friday, August 10, 2007

Baby Fae


One of the suggestions I received the most from my Big Nose Fae critique was she needs to be holding something. My favorite suggestion, the one that intrigued me and felt right, was she should be holding a child. Today, I sculpted a baby head. I am going to attach the head to a cloth body. I have not decided about the baby's hands or feet just yet. The idea of the child wrapped up tight or swaddled is something I am playing around with. We'll just have to see. Stay tuned for more updates.

Thursday, August 09, 2007

Dollmaker at work


After reviewing all of the comments I have received, I have begun to make changes on my Big Nose Fae. I have added more trim and a nice full petticoat. The picture above is of some silk I am in the process of dyeing. Several of you suggested more color. I have chose to dye the silk a nice coral pink color. I know exactly what I want to do with it as well. Now I just need to wait for it to dry.

For homework, I've been studying Marilyn Radzat's incredible work. I consider her to be a master of embellishment. It's amazing to me how she does it. She is certainly inspiring. Well, that's all for now. Please stay tuned for updates of my Big Nose Fae.

Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Gratitude

Thanks to everyone who posted a comment or sent me an email regarding my query for help. An amazing 47 responses, 19 of which were comments on this blog, came in. I have read each and every one of them. I am going to copy and paste them all into a Word document and print it out so I can have it handy when I get stuck or even a little discouraged. It really means a lot to me that so many took the time to write and give some amazing advice. Thank you.

At times our own light goes out and is rekindled by a spark from another person. Each of us has cause to think with deep gratitude of those who have lighted the flame within us.

Albert Schwietzer

Sunday, August 05, 2007

Big Nose Fae Critique





I need your help! I am in dire need of some constructive criticism. Tell me what you think of this doll. Does it need something? Is it finished? Please don't write things like "she's great" or things along that line. While it is nice, it is not helpful. This doll needs something, but I am stuck as to what it might be. You can leave comments up until Tuesday evening. After that time, I will turn off the comments for this post. I will work on some other dolls in the meantime. I really appreciated your time.

Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Can it be true?




My husband brought in the mail today. He gave me my latest issue of Doll Crafter, and it took a moment for me to realize that my doll was on the cover. My doll was on the cover. I couldn't believe it, but there she was. I sent in a picture of Usha Mauvais just in time for the gallery. This was my second time to send in a picture. Dawn Schiller was kind enough to post the deadlines over at Odd Fae. So I opened up the magazine and there was Usha on the content page. Wow! She is also in the gallery. I still can't get over it. Thanks to the editors for using her picture not only once, but three times. What an honor!

Congratulations to all of the other wonderful dolls in the gallery. What a delight to be featured along with my fellow doll makers. To the upper left and above Usha is Dawn Schiller's fantastic witch.

In case you don't get the magazine, here are the pictures (Of course, if I am violating any laws by putting them on here, I'll remove them at once.). Enjoy!

Sunday, July 29, 2007

Big Nose Fae WIP and Mold Making



I am experimenting with mold making. At the moment, I am using Antonette Cely's technique from her book, "Cloth Doll Making." Her instructions are very easy to follow for mold making. The only problem I encountered was overcoming my fear of pouring plaster over a sculpt in order to make the mold. The sculpt is a significant investment of time and I certainly don't want to waste supplies. But I took the time to make sure there were no undercuts on my sculpt. After the plaster was dry, the original sculpt came right out of the mold with no distortions.

After overcoming my fears and trepidations, I made a second sculpt and subsequent mold. The doll pictured to the right is cast from that mold. I just had to make a big nose fae.

One of the benefits of mold making, is I am able to focus on other aspects of dollmaking. In particular, I want to work on my costuming skills. I like sculpting, but I don't like having to sculpt a new head every time I make a doll. Even though it is a mold, I can still manipulate the clay after it comes out of the mold and create a unique doll head. Besides, it seems most of the books I have read about dollmaking suggest mold making. It is one more useful skill to have under your belt.

I welcome any constructive criticism and comments. I will post pictures of this doll's progress.

Monday, July 23, 2007

Remi, a Handsculpted Fantasy Creature




Here is Remi. He is pretty much finished. He needs some accessories. I was thinking of making a little book bag for him. My husband kindly donated some socks for my ever growing fabric collection. I used one gray sock to make Remi's sweater. His pants are really big and baggy and are made out of black broadcloth. They kinda remind me of MC Hammer's pants from his video "Can't Touch This." *snicker* When I finished Remi, my husband really went crazy over him. He just loves this doll. So, as a result, I can't bear to part with Remi now. So Remi is now a part of our household. Sometimes you have to keep some of your work, especially the work that strikes a chord with you or someone you love. Remi is a very quiet and intelligent and possesses a gentle soul; thus, he reminds me of my husband.

Friday, July 20, 2007

Current Work In Progress


Here is another one of my latest pieces. He is made out of Paperclay and cloth over a wire armature. Tonight, I will begin to make his costume. Stay tuned for more pictures of his progress.

Sunday, July 15, 2007

Blue-eyed Fairy WIP

Currently, I am working on three pieces. This is one of them. She is a blue-eyed fairy with a rather severe face. The head measures 2.75" tall.

The head will be attached to a neck and then to a cloth body. Then I will sand everything nice and smooth. Her eyes still need to be cleaned. So they look a little gross right now.

I used a photo of a model as a reference this time. Usually, I just sculpt a head from imagination. Or, the head is a conglomeration of reference pictures. But, this time I chose one picture of sulking super model. The lady has no eyebrows. None! But, my fairy will most definately have some eyebrows. She is more of a natural beauty who doesn't need to resort to plucking her eyebrows to look fabulous.

I have chosen a color scheme for her. It is the beach. So there will be light greens and blues, and creamy white in her costume. I think her hair will be brown mohair. I have some lovely blue-green silk from another project, which I will use for her dress. I can't wait to get started on her costume.

As always, stay tuned for pictures of her progress. Oh yes, if you have any constructive criticism, please leave a comment. But make sure you read the entire post first before doing so.

In the meantime, I have an auction on Ebay for my hand beaded fairy. It ends this Wednesday. I have my polymer clay eye tutorial up for auction on Ebay and on Etsy.

Friday, July 13, 2007

Hand Beaded Fairy Doll on Ebay


My latest doll is now up for auction on Ebay. Check it out!

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Handbeaded Fairy WIP: Costume

Today I finished the dress for my hand-beaded fairy. I still need to add some embellishments.

Introducing Mimi Kirchner


girls- wip
Originally uploaded by Mimi K
Oh my are you in for a wonderful treat. Mimi Kirchner is one of my all time favorite doll artists. She uses gourds, wool and all kinds of fabulous fabric to create her delightful dolls. Not only does she make beautiful children dolls, but she also makes the cutest Grandma dolls, exciting Tiki dolls and awesome robot dolls. Mimi utilizes a bright palette and gorgeous hand embroidered details for her dolls. Well, needless to say I could go on and on, but I could hardly do her work any justice by writing about it. You need to go and visit her blog and see it for yourself. Enjoy!

Monday, July 09, 2007

Relaxed Round Robin Cloth Doll with Pink Quilted Wings Front

Today I finished making the wings for Penny's doll. I like how they turned out. Now it is time to mail this doll off to Betsy. I can't wait to see how she will look by the time she is finished. This is a round robin I am a part of on Doll Street.

Baby Beatix: A learning experience.

This doll did not sell on Ebay. Why? I wish I knew. But I will not let it get me down. Yeah, it stinks plunking down money on Ebay trying to sell a doll you spent three weeks working on. Yeah, it stinks that nobody was interested in buying this doll either. So basically, I've been handed a big basket of lemons. You know what they say about that. So as I sip my rather bitter lemonade, I think to myself that this kind of doll slips through the cracks of doll collecting. Collectors are not interested in buying a doll that looks like this one. I realize that this is a monumental learning experience and not a waste of money. It is not a failure, but important information right there at my fingertips. So I guess I will stick with big nose fairies and fat baby dragons for
now. I wanted to thank everyone in my doll groups for all of the kind words and encouragement about this doll. Feel free to share you learning experiences with me, and while you are here, would you like some lemonade? I made it myself.

Sunday, July 08, 2007

handsculpted big nose fairy 04

Here is an update regarding Octavia Delarue. Her head is now attached to a cloth body. I glue a 3/8" wooden dowel into the head and then insert it into the cloth body. When I am satisfied with the angle and position, I smear glue on the dowel and then sew the cloth body neck opening closed. Then it's time to add a 1/4" layer of paperclay around the dowel. Then I place the doll in an 170 degree oven for about two hours. This drys out the clay and secures the head in place so I can continue to sculpt.

Handbeaded Fairy04


Handbeaded Fairy04, originally uploaded by Coppermouse Dolls.

Since I decided to redecorate my blog, I needed to update my background when I take pictures. My goal is to have a smooth transition from the picture to the blog background.

Saturday, July 07, 2007

A New Look

I felt is was time to rearrange and tidy up my blog. I used a 180 degree approach and went from white to black and vice versa. I made the type somewhat bigger, because it's easier on my eyes. I really like it too. I have added a Flickr badge on the right-hand side so you can see my body of work.

Today I have been working on Octavia Delarue. I attached her head to her body. I decided to design a brand new body template. It works just fine. Her arms and legs will be attached with buttons. I really like this doll and must admit that it will be hard parting with her. I think most dollmakers suffer through that. I become quite fond of my little dolls, especially after spending so much time on them.

I hope everyone is having a fantastic weekend.

Happy Dollmaking,
Coppermouse

Thursday, July 05, 2007

Handbeaded Fairy WIP


Here is a little doll I've been working on the past few days. She is made out of paperclay and cloth with my own polymer clay pink doll eyes. I made a skull cap out of black felt trimmed with silk flowers and beads. I have a lot of respect for artists using beads to decorate their work, but I must admit I have a hard time keeping my patience with it. Beading is so time consuming, but the results are nice. It was also a nice alternative to making a doll wig. I will post more pictures of her as she progresses.

Sunday, July 01, 2007

Two Sweet New Artists to Share With You



Introducing Anita R. Collins of Sleetwealth Studio and Ana Salvador of Dragonfly Works. Both artists gave me their blessing to post links to their websites. Dang, I forgot to ask about posting a picture of their work. Well, someday I'll remember. At any rate, they both work in polymer clay and both possess a unique style. I highly recommend visiting their sites and exploring their body of work. Both artists sell their work on Ebay. This is Ana's current auction and this is Anita's auction. Now go have fun! :)